I thought Andre's statement "The idea behind giving people welfare
is noble. ... And who would wish for a return to 1930s style
unemployment and depression?" defined the complex nature of the
problem.
Realistically there are always going to be people who need help due
to sickness, bad luck, bad judgment, or incompetence and those who
abuse the system.
The inherent problems of welfare are real but so is the need for
help. Welfare is not a black and white issue.
Phil R
--- In LivingInThePhilippi
<justonlybea@
>
> as uri88 so succintly put it, you want to destroy a group of
people,
> put them on the dole. from being grateful for it, they progress
to
> thinking they deserve it, until the day comes when the expectation
> is that it's as much a right as, say, the right to life, liberty,
> and property.
>
> --- In LivingInThePhilippi
> <andre_westbrook@
> >
> >
> > Last week, I spoke to a Filipino medic who had spent several
> months
> > in the UK. At first he was highly impressed by what he found; he
> > thought he had encountered a higher civilisation. No one went
> hungry,
> > no one was abandoned to his fate, everyone was treated to the
best
> of
> > the doctor's abilities. No distress, however caused, failed to
> evoke
> > any attemtpt to relieve it.
> >
> > 'If only we could have your welfare system,' he said.
> >
> > Some months later, his views had altered considerably. He had
> noticed
> > a strange indefinable malaise among many of the Brits he.
Although
> > fortunate by the standards of Manila slum-dwellers, they lacked
> life
> > and spirit. They were bored and malcontent, and yet apparently
> > unwilling to do anything to alleviate their situation. It did
not
> > take him long to make a connection between this state of
suspended
> > but disgruntled animation and the welfare system which,
initially,
> he
> > had thought so humane.
> >
> > The idea behind giving people welfare is noble. It was too
> alleviate
> > the dire social and economic conditions countries like America,
> > Britian and Germany found themselves in during the 1930s. And
who
> > would wish for a return to 1930s style unemployment and
> depression?
> > But the fact is welfare undermines notions of self-respect and
> over
> > time cultivates a social pathology which in America ultimately
> > required zero tolerance to even begin to turn back the tide of
> anti-
> > social behaviour on the streets of large American cities.
> >
> > Undoubtedly, there are those posters who will flick through
their
> > college books on liberal social studies courses and insist that
> there
> > is a statistical relationship between poverty and crime. In
fact,
> the
> > explosion of crime in countries as diverse as Brazil and the UK
is
> > soley down to a weakening of law and order and ineffective
courts
> > which give sentences that are too lenient.
> >
> > What the Filipnions do not need is yet more welfare and charity
> from
> > those who insist that all Westerners in the Philippines
> have "excess
> > finances". I am sure there are many here who go to the
Philippines
> > with no more than a pension and some savings to live on. If so,
do
> > not allow the liberals here to persuade you that you are
obligated
> to
> > give, give and give again. Do not let them persuade you that to
> judge
> > people as unworthy of your help is a sin - to give money to an
> idle
> > man is to encourage him in his idleness just as to give money to
> the
> > drunk is simply to prolong his dependence on alcohol. Above all,
> > insist that if you do give money it is spent on something useful
> or
> > worthwhile and that it is for the highest good of all concerned.
> >
>
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