If you want to destroy a group of people put them on the dole.
--- In LivingInThePhilippi
<drmike97007@
>
> From a theoretical position, strictly behavioral to be sure, your
> argument may hold a grain of truth in a controlled environment.
If
> all other variables are held constant, natural consequences, i.e.,
> negative reinforcement has some influence on behavior.
>
> In a laboratory setting for example, if we allow the 15 or so
> children born into a squatter family to starve, eventually there
may
> be movement on a learning curve for the multiple parents. But, in
> this instance one uncontrolled variable is the church who tells
them
> they can't have birth control or they will be excommunicated.
> Cultural variables such as the willingness of any even partially
> related adult to take on the parenting role also influences the
> population growth. There are hundreds of such uncontrolled
variables
> here.
>
> On the other side, foreigners from 1st world countries find
> themselves with excess finances and just can't walk away from
their
> consciences. Not a behavioral term but accurate. If you should
> visit or live here, and you find yourself able to pass through
some
> of the most miserable conditions without a twinge, it will tell
you
> more about yourself than about managing the behaviors of a third
> world country.
>
> Combining the concepts of starvation and foreign charity does not
> lead one to a panacea for problems here, it almost always leads to
> value confrontation, dillemas and a wide range of placements on
the
> satified - dissatisfied scale. It certainly doesn't lead to a
> simplistic behavioral solution.
>
> Mike M.
>
>
> --- In LivingInThePhilippi
> <andre_westbrook@
> >
> >
> > Hello
> >
> > I am writing to question once again the assumption that charity
is
> a
> > panacea for the problems of the Philippines.
> >
> > It is often supposed by liberals and do gooders that giving
money
> to
> > people without asking anything in return can only be a good
thing.
> > And yet, in London recently soup kitchens that were once open
> during
> > the cold winter months of December and January have been closed -
> not
> > by a penny pinching government but because charities themselves
> > recognised that having access to food and drink was exacerbating
> the
> > problem of homelessness not curing it. If you think about it
they
> > were right to do so. After all, once the qualms of living as a
> > vagrant have been overcome it is not too bad a life if one
> receives
> > food, clothing and overnight accommodation with, of course, the
> > chance to beg and hustle on the streets of a rich city.
> >
> > One of the complaints most often levelled at Filipinos and
> Filipinas
> > on this forum by so called kanos is that they are perceived as
> > walking ATM's. Who is to blame for this mindset? The Filipinos
or
> the
> > kanos - it may surprise you to know that I happen to think the
> kano
> > is more to blame than the Filipino. To give anyone money without
> > expecting something in return is not in the highest good of all
> > concerned. If you think about it long enough - and few on this
> site
> > will - charity undermines notions of self-respect and thrift. It
> > creates a something for nothing culture which means that kanos
> have
> > become pressurised into parting with money they can ill afford
to
> > lose simply because weak minded men from the Western world have
> given
> > in when the guilt buttons have been pushed in the past.
> >
> > This does not mean that one should not donate money to deserving
> > individuals who for reasons of bad luck or ill health require
> > tenporary assistance. But can we really have any sympathy for
> those
> > who just shrug their shoulders and reach inside their pockets
> > whenever a Filipino requests financial assistance. I think the
> answer
> > is we should not and we should have the courgae to deny the
moral
> > high ground to those who would allow this miliking to continue.
> >
> > By all means employ and reward the Filipino for his hard work
but
> do
> > not give him money for nothing.
> >
>
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