Living In The Philippines: 01/05/08

[LinP3] Re: Permanent resident visa for the Philippines

The total cost will vary widely depending on where in the
philippines the person resides. If one lives in an outlying area,
one must figure in costs of travel, food, and lodging to go to the
city at least two or three times to complete this, spending a
minimum of one night there. It doesn't take many trips from an
outlying area to Cebu, spending at least a night or two, at least
two times, in order for those expenses to reach P40,000.

Larry in Dumaguete

--- In LivingInThePhilippines3@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <uzicom@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Rob,
>
> I agree it is pretty straight forward, just a little time
consuming.
> The total cost should only be around Php10,000. These 'agents' who
> charge Php45-50k are only useful to Koreans etc who don't speak the
> language. As for saving only Php300 a year, don't get what you
mean.
> The only cost per year on 13a is the ACR 'Annual report' at Php310.
> Unless you know something I don't?
>
> Keith.
>
> --- In LivingInThePhilippines3@yahoogroups.com, "dubexpat2003"
> <dubexpat2003@> wrote:
> >
> > Rob, I just went thru the process and it is pretty straight
> > forward .I have a list of the requirements and documents you
have to
> > have . Be advised you may still have to file extensions til the
13A
> > visa is processed . Also the cost for 1st year is about the same
as
> > extensions and the savings comes in after that at only 300 pesos
per
> > year. They offered to do it in Butuan for us at 45000 pesos and
we
> > declined as we had a cousin of my wifes in immigration in
cebu.You
> > will pay around 1500 pesos to file and the remainder when it is
> > complete nd returned to Cebu from Manila.You will have other
costs
> > for the medical quarantine exam that must be done by an approved
> > immigration doctor ( CDO immigration can tell you which one ) and
> > you will have some costs for affidavits as well( 300 pesos per
hour
> > wa what we paid for 3 affidavits ) Then of course we had to pay
> > and "expedite" interview fee(bribe) to the officer who knew he
had
> > us in a bind. It was a Friday and he knew we would have to stay
the
> > weekend in a hotel if we had to wait so he told us how "lucky "
we
> > were to have his time in such a busy schedule .Oh well this IS
the
> > Philippines. E mail me if you want the list of requirements .
Marty
> > in Butuan
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: LivingInThePhilippines3@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:LivingInThePhilippines3@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ron
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:32 AM
> > > To: LivingInThePhilippines3@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [LinP3] Permanent resident visa for the Philippines
> > >
> > > Hello, My name is Ron Steiner from Pennsylvania, USA, I have a
> > Filipina
> > > fiance' living in Caygayan de Oro City. We plan to marry on my
> > first visit
> > > to CDO in late April of 08'. Is there any advice I can get on
> > obtaining my
> > > Visa 13a for permanant residence in Mindinao. I am on a fixed
> > income here
> > > from the states so it limits my options to keep renewing the
> > standard visa
> > > to live there. Thanks for your help, looking forward to my
> > transition.
> > > Kindly, Ron
> > > ------------------
> > >
> > > Dear Ron,
> > >
> > > Welcome to the List Ron!
> > >
> > > You must be on a tourist visa if you are not married, not a 13A
> > Permanent
> > > Resident Visa. Visa information is at
> > > http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/visa.html . Since you are
> > thinking
> > > about living here, you should at least skim through our
website at
> > > http://www.livinginthephilippines.com . There many things you
need
> > to know
> > > in an orderly fashion, not jumbled like here.
> > >
> > > After you are married you can get the 13A in six months or so.
It
> > is made
> > > for foreign spouses, usually men.
> > >
> > > You really have no problem. Just keep posting your questions
here
> > and read
> > > what you feel you need at
http://www.livinginthephilippines.com .
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > > Don
> > >
> > > Don A. Herrington
> > > http://www.livinginthephilippines.com
> > > Philippines, Heart of Asia:
> > > Expat, Foreigner, Tourist Forum
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LivingInThePhilippines3/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Philippine Dreams: This book has it all. It's a must have for
those
> > > considering living in the Philippines. And present residents
and
> > travelers
> > > will learn from it too. Just click on
http://tinyurl.com/arncg .
> > This link
> > > has rave reviews of this book and the *Free* 7 day e-course,
> > Filipina 101.
> > >
> > >
> > > ***The List Real Estate Consultant is President of the Cebu
> > Realtors Board,
> > > Tita Domingo, a Realtor (R) with national associates. She is
> > > TitaDomingoRE@ .***
> > >
> >
Listings:http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/real_estate/realtor.ht
> > ml
> > >
> > > Moving here, for relocation services and other representation
or
> > services
> > > Contact the website and List owner don.herrington@
> > > for assistance, advice and guidance. Some of these services
may be
> > fee
> > > based.
> > >
> > > If you want roses for your Filipina friend click on
> > http://tinyurl.com/7y57y
> > > , will take you to a quality Philippine company that gives
members
> > excellent
> > > service. They have a track record with us. I recommend them
> > without
> > > reservation.
> > >
> > > Other affiliates are at
> > > http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/affiliates.html .
> > >
> > > List problems: Contact List Guides at
LinP1Mods@yahoogroups.com .
> > Read the
> > > rules yet? They are at
> > http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/rules.html .
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
>

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Philippine Dreams: This book has it all. It's a must have for those considering living in the Philippines. And present residents and travelers will learn from it too. Just click on http://tinyurl.com/arncg . This link has rave reviews of this book and the *Free* 7 day e-course, Filipina 101.

***The List Real Estate Consultant is President of the Cebu Realtors Board, Tita Domingo, a Realtor (R) with national associates. She is TitaDomingoRE@hotmail.com .***
Listings:http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/real_estate/realtor.html

Moving here, for relocation services and other representation or services Contact the website and List owner don.herrington@livinginthephilippines.com for assistance, advice and guidance. Some of these services may be fee based.

If you want roses for your Filipina friend click on http://tinyurl.com/7y57y , will take you to a quality Philippine company that gives members excellent service. They have a track record with us. I recommend them without reservation.

Other affiliates are at http://www.livinginthephilippines.com/affiliates.html .

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[LinP3] Re: Visa requirements

If you're planning to visit the US periodically, say once a year or
so, the balikbayn is your best alternative. You get one year free of
visa fees. At the end of one year you must either leave and re-
enter, OR start paying tourist visa fees, in which you can extend up
at least to 16 months further.

Larry in Dumaguete

--- In LivingInThePhilippines3@yahoogroups.com, "John Knight"
<jcmahal@...> wrote:
>
> Me and my wife are moving to the Philippines. My wife is
> Philipino. I am a natural born United States citizen and my wife
is a
> naturalized United States citizen now. We plan on living there
> permanently but visiting the United States occasionaly. We are
having
> our house built there now. What would be the best route for us to
take
> as far as visas, or 13a's, or permanent resident status, etc. for
the
> Philippines is concerned? Also when, and where can that best route
be
> done.
> John
>

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[LinP3] Re: Widower Moving to Phils from USA with 2 TEENAGE DAUGHTERS...good idea or no??

As a first step, I'd recommend a summer holiday in the Philippines.

After that, your girls could give you some reasoned feedback

One step at a time

> ----- Original Message -----
> > On 1/5/08, Steve <smcgi2003@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah, maybe I'm a dreamer. Looking out of my living room window
at
> > the Sioux Falls moonscape (WHITE !! Snow, don't 'cha know...), I
> > can't help but remember my trip to the Phils October 2005 to meet
my
> > (now) fiancee and some of her extended family.
> >
> > Hey, I really DO like Sioux Falls compared to Los Angeles area
> > (where I 'lived' for 35 years), very much less crime, little or no
> > Politically Correct crap, no graffiti, better schools, WAY less
> > traffic, a generally higher quality of people, and a man can still
> > bring home enough bacon without sending the missus into the
workplace
> > fray, BUT...can't stop thinking about 'the move' !!
> >
> > I don't seriously approach the subject with my kids because I
don't
> > want to stir up any unnecessary anxiety.
> > Some of my parental-type concerns range thus:
> > *Quality and/or availability of High School and College education
> > *Will they be able to find part-time work there? No smart remarks,
> > y'all.
> > *Being of the 'dating' age, what are their 'prospects'?
> >
> > Tell me all the good and bad you have heard.
> >
> > I would move only after I have established an offshore (from US to
> > Phils) income flow; after all, if I am to build there, it will
take
> > more than I can earn locally: this reality I am aware of, but the
> > thrust of this question:
> > Is it wise to bring culturally American Teen girls to the
Philippines
> > or no?
> >
> > Steve
> > Sioux Falls,SD
>

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[LinP3] Re: Electrical Inspection

It seems like you got quoted the "kano" price for your deep well!!
20K!??? LOL Our deep well when it was dug and done, it just came up to
8K that includes the material and the labor. The usual practice is
that whatever they charge you for the "tabay" or the concrete cylinder
is also the same price for the labor. Let's say one concrete cylinder
cost is 300pesos, the labor is also 300pesos. To compute if you have
15 concrete cylinders put in for the well that comes up to 4.5k plus
4.5k for labor. That only comes up to 9k. 20K!??? This was done by a
reputable and well recommended well digger. So far we never had a
problem with our wells.

With regards to Panay Electric Company, I think that also involves
paying for deposit for them to install the meter to your house. So
don't be surprised if it comes up to that price. Everything that gets
paid to Panay Electric Co., you get a receipt. If there's no receipt
then it means something else.

--- In LivingInThePhilippines3@yahoogroups.com, Paul Agey
<oneiloilojeepney@...> wrote:
>
> That is the going rate for PECO (Panay Electric Co.) to do the
initial hookup and install a new meter. We paid P20,000 to have the
diggers come in and dig a well a cap it. It's also important to dig
the well at the right time. The end of dry season (June) is the best
time to drill one because the water table is at it's lowest. If you go
ahead and drill a well now, expect to pay to have the diggers come
back and make it deeper in a few months when the water table is lower.
You'll also need to spend for the hand pump/electric pressure pump,
the pvc piping and the labor to install it. We just finished our home
in Ledesco and still are finding things that need to be done.
>
> Paul in Iloilo
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: meekrandall <meekrandall@...>
> To: LivingInThePhilippines3@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 5, 2008 11:54:51 PM
> Subject: [LinP3] Electrical Inspection
>
> My wife's family in Pavia (Iloilo) are telling me that to get their
> electric meter they will have to pay a P10,000 for an inspection. We
> recently bought a home outside Iloilo and it seems like the expenses
> just keep adding up. We want to help the family, I know them pretty
> well but sometimes the expenses they come up with makes me wonder.
> Does this charge seem out of line? Also could anyone give me a
> ballpark figure on how much it costs to have a well put in? They
> don't have water all the way out to the subdivision yet so they want
> to put in a well for water to the house. Thanks for your help.
>
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[LinP3] Re: Widower Moving to Phils from USA with 2 TEENAGE DAUGHTERS...good idea or no?

Guys,

I can't help but think that Steve, the original poster, has been yanking our
chains somewhat with a fantasy he has of "starting anew with his children in
a fresh country far away." Those of us with some perspective are each
giving him pieces of a joint response that what Steve told us so far is
simply not practical.

Perhaps Steve is experiencing some problems in his U.S. location, and with
his children, that begs serious help right here in the U.S. Running away to
the Philippines without a good plan and sufficient income to make it work
for him and his daughters may only serve to create discomfort for his
daughters and a decision a year or so from now to just come back to the U.S.
and start over.

--Ray B

> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > On 1/5/08, Steve <smcgi2003@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah, maybe I'm a dreamer. Looking out of my living room window at
> > > the Sioux Falls moonscape (WHITE !! Snow, don't 'cha know...), I
> > > can't help but remember my trip to the Phils October 2005 to meet my
> > > (now) fiancee and some of her extended family.
> > >
> > > Hey, I really DO like Sioux Falls compared to Los Angeles area
> > > (where I 'lived' for 35 years), very much less crime, little or no
> > > Politically Correct crap, no graffiti, better schools, WAY less
> > > traffic, a generally higher quality of people, and a man can still
> > > bring home enough bacon without sending the missus into the workplace
> > > fray, BUT...can't stop thinking about 'the move' !!
> > >
> > > I don't seriously approach the subject with my kids because I don't
> > > want to stir up any unnecessary anxiety.
> > > Some of my parental-type concerns range thus:
> > > *Quality and/or availability of High School and College education
> > > *Will they be able to find part-time work there? No smart remarks,
> > > y'all.
> > > *Being of the 'dating' age, what are their 'prospects'?
> > >
> > > Tell me all the good and bad you have heard.
> > >
> > > I would move only after I have established an offshore (from US to
> > > Phils) income flow; after all, if I am to build there, it will take
> > > more than I can earn locally: this reality I am aware of, but the
> > > thrust of this question:
> > > Is it wise to bring culturally American Teen girls to the Philippines
> > > or no?
> > >
> > > Steve
> > > Sioux Falls,SD
> >
>
>
>

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[LinP3] Re: Completion of House Construction.

Hi John & Merle,

Happy new Year to you & your new home. Your story of building your
house & the area you chose would be great to share on our new Forum at:

http://livinginthephilippines.com/forum/index.php

Where we have specific sections for topics of interest. One is
dedicated to 'Building in the Philippines'

http://livinginthephilippines.com/forum/index.php?board=16.0

Where one topic alone has been read 140 times. I am sure many would
enjoy your story & you would enjoy telling it. You can even add
photo's to your post.

Hope we can see you there.

Keith.

--- In LivingInThePhilippines3@yahoogroups.com, Merle Elarmo
<dawn34john@...> wrote:
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> Hi there members,
>
> First of all a joyful and prosperous New Year to all members of
this site.
>
> For those of you who have been following the cosntruction of our
house at Palmas Del Mar in Bacolod City, Negros Occidental, we are
overjoyed to inform you that we were able to spend Christmas and New
Year in our lovely new home.
>
> The construction of the house came in on budget, on time, but not
per specifications, however as you will see from the following
pictures, the house looks far better than the original drawings and
specifications (we think so anyway).
>
> As with previous postings on the construction of our house, if you
have any questions at all, please do not hesitate to contact us
regarding this posting. Our purpose in posting the pictures is to
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[LinP3] Completion of House Construction.

Hi there members,

First of all a joyful and prosperous New Year to all members of this site.

For those of you who have been following the cosntruction of our house at Palmas Del Mar in Bacolod City, Negros Occidental, we are overjoyed to inform you that we were able to spend Christmas and New Year in our lovely new home.

The construction of the house came in on budget, on time, but not per specifications, however as you will see from the following pictures, the house looks far better than the original drawings and specifications (we think so anyway).

As with previous postings on the construction of our house, if you have any questions at all, please do not hesitate to contact us regarding this posting. Our purpose in posting the pictures is to share our experience with the group members.

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Once again, all the best for 2008.

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Re: [LinP3] Re: Pancakes Carol, Bob

Is oat bran available in the Philipines? I've seen oat germ but never oat bran. But of course I wasn't looking for it at the time! ---Thanks! ===Bob

William <foradventures@webtv.net> wrote:
Carol,

You sound like a GREAT cook!

Bob,

Wheat germ is a bit oily and contains many nutrients, especially a nice mix of different forms of vitamin E.
Needs to be refrigerated.

Wheat Bran is dry and less nutritious, but high in fiber.

Personally, I use white flour sparingly in my baking, mixing on a 1 to 4 ratio with whole wheat flour (contains all the good stuff above and has a better flavor).

William

Bob <itsbobusa@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if there's a great difference in wheat bran and wheat germ?
>
>
> Carol Hammerslag <carol.hammerslag@...> wrote:
> I make our own pancakes and waffles I don't usually like store bought
> mixes. I always wants a new taste with my pancakes and waffles I put
> nutmeg,cinnamon and vanilla extract to my batter add oat bran and
> oats. I used olive oil light than any other oil. You can add ground
> muesli to it for nut and oats pancakes health wise topped with chopped
> ripe mango on top before serving! cinnamon and nutmeg are good for
> French toasts topped with slice ripe mango yum!.
>
> On 1/5/08, yawlcome2000 <yawlcome2000@...> wrote:
> > The best pan cakes I have found here in Philippines, are not from any
> > restaurant, but, cook at home, I buy "Hungry Jack" pancake mix just
> > add water and away you go, makes he best pancakes I have ever tasted,
> > just bought another box today at market. If the supply in the store
> > is going down I buy 2 or 3 since it takes them a little while to re-
> > order.............dean

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