Sorry Kenn it's been proven through DNA testing that dogs were bred from wolves. The domestic canine has a round eye and the wolf's is oval shaped for better night vision. I used to think it was not possible for dogs to have evolved from wolves because of the eye shape
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Actually the there are many recognized animal behaviorists that also agree with the unlikeliness of Canis d. evolving from wolves. After working with thousands of dogs, myself, and after having studied wolves and coyotes for over 5 years, consulting with veterinarians and shelters on behavior modifications, and authoring a book on working with the behaviors of dogs I'd imagine that my knowledge of predators in general allows me my conclusions.
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> Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 02:25:28 +0000
> Subject: [cebucitytoday] Re: Evolution/ Adaptation
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> "Wolf/dog family"? Why not say the horse/dog family or the rat/wolf family? If you consider the charactistics of dogs and wolves you might reconsider your statement. For the most part when domestic dogs are bred to wolves the offspring is so aggressive they often kill one another. There are to many differences between dogs and wolves to belive that one evolved from the other. It's a convenient rumor for wanttabe trainers and amateur "behaviorists"
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> > Your first example is true but if you mate a tiger and a lion with a
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> > wolf/dog family is a different matter for the most part but the horse
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> > family is like that of cats. Horses and donkeys or zebras when mated
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> > produce sterile offspring. By the way, a mule is not a species. It is
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> > the sterile result of the mating of 2 DIFFERENT species.
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> > > Some of you guys think you are so intelligent & yet have no intellect
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> > at all it seems. You talk down to me as if I'm the one with no
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> > > Lions, tigers, panthers, bobcats, etc are all still in the same
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> > > wolves, dogs, dingo, foxes all still from the same family
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> > > Horses, donkeys, mules, all still in the same family.
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> > > Asians, Africans, Europeans, all from the same family, humans
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> > > Please don't talk to me as if I don't get it. I truly feel sorry for
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> > those of you who are blinded & can't see what is truly happening.
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> > > > Ok, John. It's obvious that you have no idea what a species is, nor
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> > what Darwin's theory was all about. Changing cats into possums, or
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> > > > Darwin's Theory of Evolution is the widely held notion that all life
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> > > > Animals do give birth to different species. Just to show you it can
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> > > > A liger is an offspring of a lion and a tigress, different species,
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> > > > The mule is an offspring of a horse and a donkey, different species,
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> > > > I'll agree with you on one thing. You did not descend from apes.
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> > > > > I'm beginning to believe many of you guys came from apes.
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