Benny
I believe you hit the nail squarely on the head
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Benny Harper" <bennyoki69@yahoo.
To: <LivingInThePhilippi
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 5:50 PM
Subject: [LinP3] Re: Why giving charity to Filipinas is misguided
> Mike,
>
> I must agree with most of your logic. My parents were children of
> farmers (in Georgia). They each had 9 brothers and/or sisters.
>
> To the best of my (poor) memory when each of those children married;
> they and their spouse had two children. BTW: Somewhere along the way
> most of them eventually moved from Georgia to Florida; and were no
> longer farmers. I am 68 and my sister is six years younger.
>
>>From my last visit (to where I grew up) I knew I did not want to live
> there when I retired; plus, having spent only a few of my adult years
> in the US, I made the decision to retire to the Philippines (having
> visited here many times). My sister will be retiring soon, and will
> be moving to a different state.
>
> For those of us that grew up (in Florida) during the '50s and '60s, we
> found the changes have been simply too great, and we no longer enjoy
> the state. In my case (living outside the US, in Japan, for most of
> my adult life), I chose the Philippines; she chose Arkansas.
>
> You mentioned about the lower birth rate in America, and it's
> potential damage to the elderly. We both find ourselves (me and my
> sister) in the position of wondering whether all the money we gave our
> government; throughout our lives, will last long enough to see us to
> the grave.
>
> IMHO: I feel the problem can't fully be blamed on fewer children born
> into families; but feel that IF we could have a more honest government
> (and those running large companies) there would still be enough money
> for people; as they retire. - The old saying; 'The rich get richer,
> and the poor get poorer' wasn't invented here, but I still remember
> hearing it 'in America' when I was young.
>
> I believe that many Americans don't actually realize how similar our
> government (and big business) is to that of the Philippines. It is
> just that up until the WWII era, there were large enough families to
> cover-up what was going on. - It is now beginning to 'slowly' become
> obvious to more Americans. - Don't they remember that with the
> beginning of WWII, most families had two wage earners (husband and
> wife); when before that most wives stayed at home? Why didn't our
> government invest the money it took from us; instead of simply taxing
> the people more; which continues to this day.
>
> Just my thoughts on the subject. :-)
>
> Benny
>
> --- In LivingInThePhilippi
> wrote:
>>
>> I know that its common to want to blame the church because of their
>> position on birth control. But if you look at developed countries,
>> Catholics have far fewer children than if they're from the poor
>> developing countries.
>>
>> Around the world, the general trend is for birth rates to drop as the
>> country begins to modernize. This is a slow process, because it takes
>> time for cultural values to change. My grandparents were Asian
>> immigrants who came to America. They respectively had 11 and 7 children
>> on my dad and mom's side. My parents, second generation Americans had
>> 3. If I have kids, 2 will be plenty.
>>
>> Children are an economic asset in poor countries. They contribute to
>> wealth especially to an agricultural family. On the other hand, I grew
>> up in a modern society and was a leech to my parents until my early
>> 20's.
>>
>> I've noticed in general, that in the Philippines, wealthier urban
>> families tend towards fewer children. Korea and Japan went through a
>> similar transition. China mandated it and made it happen sooner. It
>> also happened in the USA (look at our birth rates in the 1700 and
>> 1800's and early 1900's).
>>
>> If true, the best strategy for slowing down population growth is the
>> modernization of a country. Charity which simply feeds a hungry mouth,
>> doesn't do much except result in a hungry mouth for the next day.
>> Charity which helps people to 'learn how to fish' and feed themselves
>> leaves people better off and not charity dependent.
>>
>> The one downside of this transition is that it leaves us with too few
>> young people in relation to older people in a country to maintain
>> Social Security type programs. Now, in America, we're beginning to see
>> that more young people would be an economic asset to the retiree crowd -
>> but in a different way from the RP.
>>
>
>
>
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